HannahBayle wrote:
Go-Lo wrote:


Another Bubba Luvaah on the brink of self destruction!



Take it easy on him. Be understanding. These BubbaLuvvas have all this angst built up from a long history of mega frustration. Edgy. very edgy.

The whole problem is I have been taking it easy on him!

Change your RV sig to "I worship Dungey. I completly Ignore my favourate rider Ryan Villopoto who smoked Dungey and is now sadly hurt." I no longer know who Villopoto is becuase a guy named Ryan Dungey is winning. I cant take my eyes off of him"

Bikeless wrote:
Dang Russ, reading that makes RC look a little better then James.

A little

What really annoys me Bikeless is having to use RC as an example. I respect his achievememnts greatly, but I have never been a fan and never will be. I am soooo glad Dungey has come along and given me a rider other than RC to use as an example.

Of course, I could have used MC, but many of the luvvas haven't heard of him

RussS wrote:
MMA wrote:Friggon people and saying that were "Bubbaluvvas" Im no BUBBA luvva, I just can OPEN MY EYES!

yeah, yeah, yeah - heard it all before.

OK, I will write slowly so you can perhaps understand ... I will even use simple words and big letters.

James Stewarts Professional Record

2002
2nd WSX - should have won, but cost himself the title by crashing.
1st 125 MX

2003
1st WSX
3rd 125 MX - should have won, but cost himself the title by crashing.

2004
1st ESX
1xt 125 MX
Finally did what was hoped for.

2005
10th SX
12th MX
(A below average rookie year)

2006
2nd SX - should have won, but cost himself the title by crashing.
4th MX - should have won, but cost himself the title by crashing.

2007
1st SX (RC retired)
7th MX - should have won, but cost himself the title by crashing.

2008
23rd SX - should have won, but cost himself the title by crashing.
1st MX - Amazing achievement with clean sweep, but against less than steller competition.

2009
1st SX
No MX - Now 'semi retired'. Talked a lot about racing, but never fronted up.

2010
20th SX - might have won, but cost himself the title by crashing.
No MX so far - Seems to be talking about racing last 4 rounds. General public will believe when they see.



OK, now for the comparisons.



Ricky Carmichael
1997
3rd ESX
1st 125 MX

1998
1st ESX
1st 125 MX

1999
16th SX
1st 125 MX

2000
5th SX
1st MX

2001
1st SX
1st MX

2002
1st SX
1st MX

2003
1st SX
1st MX

2004
1st MX
?SX 2004
2005
1st SX
1st MX

2006
1st SX
1st MX

Ryan Dungey

2007
5th ESX
5th 250F MX

2008
2nd WSX
2nd 250F MX

2009
1st WSX
1st 250F MX

2010
1st SX
1st MX (probably)




Those are facts and figures that can NOT be disputed. They are what is in the AMA records and what most fans with a couple brain cells will recognise and accept. No coulda/woulda/shoulda - just facts.

Oh yes - I suggest you do open your eyes ... it is amazing what you can see when the world is not tainted by narrow minded views.


Help me with RC's SX '99 - '00 & '04/Dungeys '07 MX & WSX '08 please

motobro wrote:Help me with RC's SX '99 - '00 & '04/Dungeys '07 MX & WSX '08 please

What help do you need bro?


I think this might explain.

In '99 RC raced SX on the 250 and MX on the 125. '00 he raced 250 both series, but like most newcomers crashed some and took a while to settle down - he also never really adapted to SX due to his size and always struggled so his indoor achievements were real triumph over adversity. Outdoors, he was in his element from day 1.

04 he sat out the SX series after a leg operation so he could recover in time for the real racing - motocross.


Dungey - like most guys took time to find his feet. Rode and learned - did some good stuff and had some shockers ... sort of what you would expect of a rider entering the pro ranks.

MMA wrote:
Cali wrote:
In two weeks we wont be hearing much more about old RD.We all know why he is SX & soon to be MX champion.Same way Reed was SX champion those 2 times.Get over him Jeez,Stewart by atleast 15 seconds last 8 motos.RD is just beating Short,he will have his hands full with JS & RV 4-Show!

Couldnt of said it better. People think were taking away things from Dungey. were not. We are simply saying he is 3-4th best and when the top guys are out, OFCOURSE HE SHOULD BE WINNING! WHO ELSE?!

Too bad he was beating RV in points when RV made a HUGE mistake and had to kick his bike away. And RV had to take him out in a corner to get the lead. Things that make you go HMMMMMMMMMMMM...

Saying he is 3rd or 4th best is stretching it since he has so many #1 plates...

MMA wrote:
Go-Lo wrote:
WHAT WAS THAT?? Dungey only 3rd or 4th BEST!! Since when does a 3rd or 4th BEST racer win everything on the planet??

GEEZ!! The playing field gets more polluted by the day and LC is not even around!



Ya know what Go Lo, your friggon Dungluv for Dungey is pathetic. I suggest you change your sig, because you ovbiously lost everything you have for RV. THATS, a FACT. Stewart will annihilate Dungey and if you were a fan of RV you would know that he HAS destroyed Dungey for years. therefore, 3rd best. If Reed becomes his old self again, he will beat Dungey. Come on, Look at Reed in the past years. He SMOKED everyone except for James and RC. You think Reed would Stay behind short and whindam for 15 minutes? Come on.

Sorry, bro, when you say RV "owned" RD you are dead wrong. When you "own" someone you aren't behind them in points, you don't crash yourself out of a series because they are pushing you so hard and you darned sure don't have to take them out in a corner so you can get in front of them. When you own someone they don't win as much as you do. Try watching the races before you comment, bro.

Friggon people and saying that were "Bubbaluvvas" Im no BUBBA luvva, I just can OPEN MY EYES!

One question for the Dungey doubters. What does Dungey need to do to earn your respect? Is it as simple as beating JS, CR and RV for a title while they all stay healthy for an entire season and don't experience any DNF's, crashes or mechanical problems? I can understand that request but it's not very realistic. This is MX/SX. People crash, people have injuries and bikes tear up. Look at the above examples of JS's and RC's records.

MMA wrote:
Yes those are facts, but the way you imply things ARENT. Really, so James won sx in 07 bc RC retired. HA! And when he won outdoors, it was bc of the competition not being good? You see, always gotta bring him down.
Haha.. I noticed that too. While a great post, Russ took a few blows at Ol' Stewy.

I particulary like the part "Amazing achivement, but against less than steller compeition."... But somehow forgot to mention that Dungey's MX championship will be with the TOP 3 guys out from injury; And his SX championshp with 3 TOP (Reed, RV, Stewy) riders not finishing the season. I didn't see no "less than steller competition" written beside any of Dungey's stats. And then Russ ends his post with "these are the facts". Seems a little wierd to me.

bri1547 wrote:
MMA wrote:
Go-Lo wrote:
WHAT WAS THAT?? Dungey only 3rd or 4th BEST!! Since when does a 3rd or 4th BEST racer win everything on the planet??

GEEZ!! The playing field gets more polluted by the day and LC is not even around!



Ya know what Go Lo, your friggon Dungluv for Dungey is pathetic. I suggest you change your sig, because you ovbiously lost everything you have for RV. THATS, a FACT. Stewart will annihilate Dungey and if you were a fan of RV you would know that he HAS destroyed Dungey for years. therefore, 3rd best. If Reed becomes his old self again, he will beat Dungey. Come on, Look at Reed in the past years. He SMOKED everyone except for James and RC. You think Reed would Stay behind short and whindam for 15 minutes? Come on.

Sorry, bro, when you say RV "owned" RD you are dead wrong. When you "own" someone you aren't behind them in points, you don't crash yourself out of a series because they are pushing you so hard and you darned sure don't have to take them out in a corner so you can get in front of them. When you own someone they don't win as much as you do. Try watching the races before you comment, bro.

Friggon people and saying that were "Bubbaluvvas" Im no BUBBA luvva, I just can OPEN MY EYES!

Alright, OVBIOUSLY YOU are not watching the races. Heres what I see and KNOW- Dungey looks like short and whindam out there. lolligaggin around. YOU THINK VILLOPOTO AND STEWART LOOK LIKE THAT?! By ANYONE saying that Dungey is better than Stewart and RV is like saying hes better than RC. IT IS! RV HAD! to fly as hard as he could so he could get back his points! He was SMOKING dungey every single week!

I dont even wanna continue because I hate agrueing with a small mind.